We cover trout spey with Captain John McCloskey aka Dry Fly John on Instagram.  John goes deep into how he catches trout on the Chattahoochee River and the Naknek River out of Alaska.  John is teaching spey in Georgia, a place where it hasn’t totally consumed everyone quite yet.

Tons of great tips including the best rod, lines, how to cast and how he teaches spey.  We talk about the difference between spey, switch and single hand and how to present the fly to different trout species.


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Show Notes with John McCloskey

07:20 – Johnathan Farmer’s micro intruders kill down south.

11:00 – Echo’s 4113 and the Echo Swing 7126 are differences in the trout vs steelhead game.

17:00 – The OPST 425 head or whatever you need to lengthen the sink tip.  It’s simple with the OPST even when swinging T20.

18:00 – Here’s the link to the podcast episode with OPST and James Millard.

22:00 – The 200 grain OPST skagit head can work for a 9′ 5 weight as well.

24:00 – Here is the link to the Marty and Mia Sheppard episode where we talked about the spey game and how it’s a life long process.

25:00 – Jeff Liskay was a big mentor for John especially with the spey game.

30:20 – Dan Johnston was also talking about stopping your thumb straight up instead of the 10 to 2 analogy.  Here’s the podcast with Dan and St. Croix

46:30 – John notes the RIO Mow Tip, the Flo Tip and the OPST have the riffle, the run and the bucket which makes it pretty straight forward.  Here’s a video from Red’s that talks about the OPST tips.

48:40 – The RIO game changer is another good setup.

52:30 – The Naknek River Camp, Katmai Trophy Lodge, along with the Blue Bonefish in Belize.

1:04:30 – We mentioned the Fishhawk Fly Shop.

1:05:45 – Jerry Darkus was another big mentor for John and someone I still hope to get on the podcast.

1:09:15 – The OPST website and youtube channel is a great resource for the spey game.


You can find John at instagram @DryFlyJohn.


Resources Noted in the Show

OPST Commando Head


Videos Noted in the Show

Bob Dylan – Subterranean Homesick Blues



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Conclusion with John McCloskey

John McCloskey breaks out his best trout spey tips for the Naknek River in Alaska and the Chattahoochee River out of Georgia.  Lots of great tips to get you swininging a little better on your next trip.