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WFS 486 – Renzetti Fly Tying Vise with Lily Renzetti – The Traveler, True Rotary Vise, Benjamin Franklin

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Lily Renzetti is here to tell you the entire Renzetti fly tying vise story and how they’ve been setting the standard for the past 50 years. We learn how it all began with an idea to make fly tying easier. We also look at some of their current ambassadors as well as some of the big names who are utilizing Renzetti across the country. We also learn why the traveler vise has been such a major changer throughout the years and continues to be a go-to vise. We also learn what’s next for Renzetti.

Renzetti Fly Tying Vise with Lily Renzetti. Hit play below!

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Renzetti Fly Tying Vise Show Notes with Lily Renzetti

2:56 – Lily gives us a fascinating summary of how Renzetti was built. Her husband, Andy Renzetti, was working as a machinist at that time at a local shop in Romansville PA. With the help of his brother, they were able to design the Presentation 3000 which was the very first vise that was introduced by Renzetti and retailed by Orvis.

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5:51 – In 1988, they introduced the Traveler series and Presentation 4000.

9:27 – It has been 50 years since they introduced the Presentation 3000. For her, it has been a beautiful journey not only building a business but also building relationships with their customers and other people in the industry.

14:37 – Before Renzetti, Andy was using the Thompson A vise back then. The HMH vises were also available at that time.

Photo via: https://www.johnkreft.com/thompson-model-a-vise/

15:23 – The true rotary concept was introduced by Renzetti.

17:17 – Lily tells us the current patents they have. They have also been designing and manufacturing rod-building equipment since the early ’80s.

Photo via: https://www.rdflyfishing.com/collections/rod-lathe/products/craftsman-rod-lathe

21:09 – I ask her what are the biggest difference she sees in the fly-tying market over the years since they started.

25:30 – She gives her opinion on other companies making vises that are similar to theirs.

28:40 – Currently, they have about 25 ambassadors which consist of legends such as Bob Popovics and Bob Clouser. Kelly Galloup is also one of them. He had him in the podcast in episodes 052 and 167.

32:15 – They find the best people to be their ambassadors regardless of their race and sexual orientation.

34:26 – Lily tells us about her journey to the US. She was born and raised in Venezuela and came to the US for college. She went to St. Joseph University in Philadelphia and took up a major in business and a minor in industrial relations. He got involved in the business with Andy in 1987.

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40:06 – She is thankful to their team for consistently making everything happen and producing products that are up to the standards they set from the very beginning.

42:00 – Just this year, they introduced the Renzetti Tool Bar, Renzetti Tool Bar Station, and the Green Master Series Vise with extended crank arm, hinged stem, and streamer base. The last one won a prize at the ICAST as one of the best in the category.

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46:58 – We talk about the purpose of the Bobbin Cradle.

54:05 – In buying your first vise, she recommends starting with their Traveler first. It holds the hook securely and offers true rotary features. They also have accessories that they designed for the Traveler which makes it versatile.

59:40 – She recommends subscribing to their YouTube channel @Renzetti to learn about their products and the true rotary concept.

1:01:07 – I ask her about retirement and their plans for the company. Andy has already retired, but he still goes to the office and trains their staff on the operations.

1:04:50 – She shares Andy’s favorite quote which goes “There is a better way. Find it.” and the inspiring story of how he persevered despite being underprivileged and having a learning disability growing up.

1:09:04 – She explains the qualities they look for in brand ambassadors.

1:11:53 – She brought the Casting for Recovery to Florida. They have also been supporting the Tunnel to Towers Foundation (T2T). They give to T2T for every vise they sell.

Photo via: https://www.facebook.com/Tunnel2Towers/

You can find Lily on Instagram @renzettiinc and@rdflyfishing.

Facebook at Renzetti Inc

YouTube @Renzetti

Visit their website at Renzetti.com.

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Videos Noted in the Show

Related Podcast Episodes

Streamer fly fishing Tips with Kelly Galloup (WFS 052)

 

WFS 167 – How to Dry Fly Fish with Kelly Galloup

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Renzetti Fly Tying Vise with Lily Renzetti

Our chat with Lily Renzetti was an absolute pleasure. Hearing the inspiring story of how Andy Renzetti started the company was a true testament to the power of passion and perseverance. The Traveler Series vise is truly a work of art, and we were thrilled to learn more about its intricate design and superior functionality. And for all you fly tying enthusiasts out there, becoming a Renzetti brand ambassador is a fantastic opportunity to join a community of like-minded individuals who share a passion for the sport. We hope you enjoyed listening to our conversation with Lily as much as we did!

WFS 485 – The Delicate Fly Fisher with Ed Herbst – Small Streams, Cape Town, Fly Fishing Books

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Step into the world of fly fishing and outdoor exploration with Ed, an experienced angler and writer, as he shares his journey in this episode. We start by learning about Ed’s involvement with the Cape Piscatorial Society and his contributions to the Piscator Journals. He offers his thoughts on Tenkara rods, providing a fresh perspective on their use. Ed also discusses his book, “The Delicate Fly Fisher,” giving us a sneak peek into its various chapters that cover everything from fly tying to embracing the approach of small stream fishing.

Ed opens up about the challenges posed by a health condition that affected his balance and limited his fishing activities. He provides valuable tips for successful fishing trips, stressing the significance of appropriate gear, staying hydrated, and maintaining a stealthy approach. Beyond fishing, Ed takes us through his broadcasting career and even touches on historical figures like Nelson Mandela. Along the way, he recommends several books, reflects on notable anglers like Joe Humphreys, and explores intriguing concepts such as Gary LaFontaine’s theory of attraction. This episode offers a well-rounded blend of angling insights, personal stories, and outdoor wisdom.

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Show Notes with Ed Herbst on The Delicate Fly Fisher

05:00 – Ed joined the Cape Piscatorial Society in his mid-30s. He also wrote for Piscator Journals.

09:45 – Ed talks about what he thinks about Tenkara rods

12:00 – Ed wrote a book called, The Delicate Fly Fisher. He talks about its chapters.

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20:25 – Gary Borger was on the podcast in episode 045

21:45 – Ed noted how Sage came up with the Ought-wt fly rod.

26:15 – “Small stream Ethos is a visual form of fly fishing”. Ed explains how and why.

37:30 – Ed talks about the disease he has that took away his balance, which also is one of the reasons why he couldn’t fish anymore.

41:40 – Jeff Morgan wrote a book about Small-Stream Fly Fishing. Jeff Morgan was on the podcast at WFS 120.

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42:00 – Ed also noted Jeff’s book, Productive Trout Flies for Unorthodox Prey: The Oddballs. Ed tells us what he loves most about that book.

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46:00 – Ed breaks down the stuff to keep in mind when going on a fishing trip.

  • Wear proper fishing attire and use the right equipment.
  • Stay hydrated
  • Be stealthy

53:45 – Ed talks about his broadcasting career being a reporter.

56:00 – We talk about Nelson Mandela, former President of South Africa.

1:04:30 – Ed noted the book, Trout From Small Streams by Dave Hughes.small stream fly fishing

1:07:15 – Ed noted the book, Fly Fishing Outside the Box: Emerging Heresies

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1:10:15 – We recently had Geri Meyer out of the Driftless Anglers at WFS 468.

1:14:30 – The main species they target in Cape Town are browns and rainbows.

1:17:00 – Ed’s go-to fly rod is a 7-foot 2-wt/3-wt.

1:17:30 – Ed noted that video of Joe Humphreys fishing small streams.

1:29:45 – Ed talks about Gary LaFontaine’s theory of attraction.

You can find Ed on Instagram @ed_herbst346

Visit Piscator.Co.Za to check out Ed’s stuff

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Related Podcast Episodes

WFS 120 – Small Stream Fly Fishing with Jeff Morgan – Entomology, Oddballs, Flying Ant, Gary Lofontaine

WFS 045 – Nymphing for Trout with Gary Borger – Nymph Fishing Tips, Fly Fishing History

 

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Conclusion with Ed Herbst

In this episode, we get an insightful peek into Ed’s world as an avid fly fisherman and writer. Joining the Cape Piscatorial Society and writing for Piscator Journals marked pivotal moments in his angling journey, showcasing his deep involvement in the community. From sharing thoughts on Tenkara rods to discussing his book “The Delicate Fly Fisher,” Ed’s expertise shines through. He delves into the artistry of “Small Stream Ethos,” his broadcasting career, and his recommended reads like “Trout From Small Streams” and “Fly Fishing Outside the Box.”

Unfortunately, a health setback cut short his fishing days, but he continues to contribute through knowledge sharing. Ed’s advice on trip preparation underlines the essentials—right gear, hydration, and stealth. His admiration for angling greats like Joe Humphreys and Gary LaFontaine’s attraction theory adds a personal touch. Throughout, Ed’s profound dedication to his craft and community remains a steady current.

WFS 484 – Mavrk Fishing with Jeff Sasaki – Ultra Light Euro Nymphing Gear, Mavrk, Element Case

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Jeff Sasaki takes us into Mavrk fishing and what it’s like to build a massive brand in the cellphone accessories business. He also tells us why he transferred to producing unique fly fishing gear. We also discover how to fish dries with a euro nymphing setup, how Newton’s law affects your cast, and his take on the center axis fly reel.

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Mavrk Fishing Show Notes with Jeff Sasaki

2:43 – Jeff gives us an update since we last had him in episode 415. The main thing is they are expanding their rod line that has just been launched.

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Photo via: https://www.mavrkusa.com/collections/rods

3:20 – He further discusses the advantages of the new rod line they’ll launch which will be longer and lighter.

9:47 – We dig into product design and development. His degree and background were in product design. Before Mavrk, he started a brand called Element Case.

Photo via: https://www.elementcase.com

11:17 – Jeff explains industrial design, graphic design, and engineering.

15:35 – We return to the fascinating account of how he founded Element Case.

17:32 – He tells a humorous tale about how Apple once misplaced a prototype in a bar. He considered creating a case for the iPhone 4 at that time because it had just gone viral. Their instances gained widespread attention, and they received so many orders that the server had to shut down their website.

28:28 – He eventually decided to sell the brand. He realized he was not interested in the consumer electronics industry, took a break, and made Mavrk happen.

31:53 – He explains the lessons he learned while creating the Element Case and launching Mavrk. He reached a point with Element where he was unable to accomplish what he enjoyed doing with Element, such as creating and chatting with clients.

35:02 – I ask him how he would have kept the Element small.

36:28 – For Mavrk, he wants to keep the company small.

39:02 – He gives some advice and tips for those who want to create a product for the outdoors like talking to somebody who has an idea about the product, preferably an industrial designer who knows a thing about the materials, the manufacturing, and the industry.

45:20 – He discusses the Diffusion of Innovation (DOI) Theory and the five adopter categories when promoting a new product or service to a target population.

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49:22 – He tells about that time, early on for Mavrk, when they launched on Kickstarter which he says was a mistake.

53:15 – He talks about graphene, which is utilized in Formula 1 cars.

54:46 – He gives some advice about the fly fishing industry that might help those who want to introduce a new product.

1:03:39 – He encourages people to learn how to write a business plan. He recommends the book titled “How to Write a Business Plan” by Mike McKeever.

Photo via: https://www.amazon.com/Write-Business-Plan-Mike-McKeever/dp/1413325459

1:06:18 – He believes that being a product designer allows him to be near to the things he enjoys, like when he designed a Fox Racing helmet for Ricky Carmichael.

You can find Jeff on Instagram @MavrkFlyFishing.

Facebook at Mavrk.

Visit their website at MavrkUSA.com.

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Resources Noted in the Show

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Related Podcast Episodes

WFS 415 – Mavrk Fly Fishing with Jeff Sasaki – Euro Nymphing, Stinger Reel, Truckee River

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Mavrk Fishing Conclusion Jeff Sasaki

Jeff Sasaki’s inspiring journey from cellphone accessories to fly fishing gear is a story of following one’s passions and creating a unique brand in a competitive industry. His insights on fishing techniques, Newton’s law, and center axis fly reels provide valuable knowledge for both novice and experienced anglers alike.

We hope that our podcast episode with Jeff has left you feeling motivated and informed, and we look forward to bringing you more insightful conversations with industry experts in the future. Stay tuned for our next episode!

WFS 483 – Echo Fly Fishing with Tim Rajeff, Jarrod Black, and Jamie Hixson – Fly Rods, Double Haul, Fly-O

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Echo Fly Fishing

In today’s episode, we get up close and personal with the minds behind Echo Fly Fishing: Tim Rajeff, Jarrod Black, and Jamie Hixson. We hear the story of how Echo was founded and discover how they crafted some of the world’s toughest, most durable rods.

Plus, find out why Tim chose to pass the Echo torch to Jarrod and Jamie instead of selling out to the highest bidder. Join us for this inspiring episode that celebrates not only the art of fly fishing but also the lasting friendships it creates.

Echo Fly Fishing with Tim Rajeff and Crew. Hit play below!

 

 

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Echo Fly Fishing Show Notes

03:21 – Echo Fly Fishing was established in 2001 by Tim Rajeff alongside Jarod and Katherine. Jamie Hixson joined the Echo team later in 2005, but his friendship with Jarrod dates back even before that.

04:40 – We hear the story behind Tim’s decision to stick with Jarrod and Jamie instead of selling out to the highest bidder. Tim remains an integral part of Echo Fly Fishing, dedicating his expertise to what he does best – rod design.

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07:30 – Jarrod and Tim’s partnership traces back to their 15-year stint at G. Loomis Fishing Rods before they founded Rajeff Sports to distribute Airflo Fly Lines. Their collaboration with Airflo lasted for 20 years until they decided to part ways in August 2020.

Meet the Echo Team 

Jarrod Black 

Echo Fly Fishing

12:34 – Jarrod lived in an industrial town in Washington where there was a huge manmade lake. He and Jamie would use hotdog buns on a fly rod to target and catch carp.

16:50 Jarrod shares that the lack of affordable and quality fly gear influenced his decision to work at G. Loomis. When Echo was founded, it became a priority for him to make fly fishing more accessible to more people.

Jamie Hixson

18:00 – Feeling burned out from his project manager role at a steel manufacturer and his 3D modeling job, Jamie reached out to Jarrod, who offered him a part-time position at Echo, which quickly turned into a full-time role.

Now, with 18 years under his belt at Echo, Jamie’s engineering background has proven invaluable as he and Tim work together to design exceptional Echo products.

 

Tim Rajeff

Echo Fly Fishing

23:20 – Despite growing up in a non-fly fishing town in California, Tim was just a short 5-minute walk away from the renowned Golden Gate Angling and Casting Club, where the foundations of modern fly fishing equipment were developed.

Alongside his brother, who became a world casting champion, they had already been fishing when they stumbled upon the club and discovered a passion for the sport.

 

Echo Fly Rods 

26:23 – The Echo team shares valuable insights about their target customer and how they succeeded in creating rods at a lower price point. They take us behind the scenes of their rod conceptualization process.

Additionally, we dive into the Shadow X Fly Rod, a product developed in collaboration with Pete Erickson for competition use.

43:40 – We get to the heart of the matter and ask the Echo team about the secret behind their durable rods.

52:00 – We also explore the evolution of Echo Fly Fishing’s rods and the common reasons a rod would break. Tim emphasizes that most rods break at the tip. Because of this, his team set up a program where you can easily request a replacement tip online.

1:10:40 – During our conversation, the Echo team shares the inspiration and concept that gave birth to their iconic logo.

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1:13:20 – Tim reveals the secret behind the Micro Practice Rod, which he shares was inspired by Joan and Lee Wulff’s Fly-O.

1:17:00 – Of course, we seize the opportunity to learn casting tips from the master himself, Tim Rajeff. We dive into the double haul technique and explore valuable insights on how to improve our casting skills.

 

Check out Echo Fly Fishing on Instagram @echoflyfishing

Visit their website at Echo Fly Fishing 

Echo Fly Fishing Videos Noted in the Show

Related Podcast Episodes

WFS 118 – Euro Nymphing Tips with Pete Erickson – Echo Fly Fishing, Shadow X, Grayling, Loch Style Fishing

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Echo Fly Fishing Conclusion

This episode was an epic ride with the Echo team. We got the inside scoop on their passion for fly fishing and how they craft those durable rods. And who could forget those priceless casting tips from the one and only Tim Rajeff?

WFS 482 – Save the Boundary Waters with Riverhorse Nakadate – Patagonia, Poetry, ToneQuest Report

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Join us for an awesome episode as we catch up with Riverhorse – an angler, writer, filmmaker, musician, surfer, and Patagonia Ambassador. Having been on our podcast twice before, we’ll delve into his recent film projects with Patagonia and his other exciting ventures. We discover how you can contribute to preserving the Boundary Waters through SaveTheBoundaryWaters.org.

Beyond his wilderness pursuits, Riverhorse also talks about how he leads the Editorial of a magazine called, ToneQuest Report, featuring contributions from rockstars and musicians. Riverhorse talks about his upcoming fly fishing book filled with essays and adventure stories and also talks about the impact of music on people’s lives. Plus, a bonus poetry read at the end! Stay tuned for that!

Save the Boundary Waters with Riverhorse Nakadate. Hit play below!

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Show Notes with Riverhorse Nakadate

03:00 – Riverhorse had been on the podcast twice at WFS 80 and WFS 266. We talked about saving the Boundary Waters.

03:10 – Riverhorse talks about his most recent film projects with Patagonia and others.

06:50 – He noted a project he did with Patagonia called, It’s All Home Water – A Northern Light which resulted in a mining ban for 20 years.

08:45 – We encourage people to explore SaveTheBoundaryWaters.org for the latest updates and discover ways you can contribute to preserving the Boundary Waters.

11:50 – Riverhorse is now running the ToneQuest Report Magazine after his friend who used to run it passed away. A lot of other rockstars and musicians contribute to the magazine. Check out their editorial board here.

Photo by Fretboard Journal

13:30 – We noted the song, You’ll Never Leave Harlan Alive by Darrell Scott.

18:40 – Riverhorse has been stories for Fly Fish Journal. They just issued a recent one called, HEARTLAND DRIFTING: A MINNESOTA PICARESQUE.

19:15 – Riverhorse is writing a fly fishing book with essays and adventure stories that he’s been saving up.

20:45 – We had John Gierach on the podcast twice. His recent one is WFS 434.

25:00 – He noted Erin Block who’s a female angler and fly fishing writer. Check out her stuff here.

28:00 – Riverhorse talks about how his mom taught him to communicate his feelings honestly.

30:10 – We talk about how to stay optimistic when it comes to conservation.

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Photo by Flylords Mag

37:30 – Riverhorse talks about Jeff Liskay and their adventures together.

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Photo by Jeff Liskay / Great Lakes Fly Fishing

39:10 – Jeff Liskay is now part of our podcast with his own series The Great Lakes Dude.

46:00 – We hear the story of when Yvon Chouinard wrote Riverhorse a touching letter of appreciation.

47:00 – We had Craig Matthews on the podcast at WFS 427.

52:30 – Riverhorse talks about his poem, Cloud Burst. Listen to his poetry read starting at 55:10.

You can find Riverhorse on Instagram @riverhorse_nakadate

Visit ToneQuest Report Magazine and check out their stuff!

Help save the Boundary Waters at SaveTheBoundaryWaters.org

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Related Podcast Episodes

WFS 266 – The Boundary Waters in Minnesota with Riverhorse Nakadate

 

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Conclusion with Riverhorse Nakadate

Riverhorse has been deeply involved in conservation efforts, particularly focused on safeguarding the Boundary Waters. Notably, his collaborations with Patagonia, such as the project “It’s All Home Water – A Northern Light,” successfully resulted in a significant 20-year mining ban. We highlighted Riverhorse’s passion for being outdoors, writing, and music.

With inspiring stories, like Yvon Chouinard’s touching letter of appreciation, Riverhorse emphasizes the importance of staying optimistic amidst conservation challenges, promoting honest communication and hope for the future. Through powerful storytelling and poetry, the podcast creates an engaging platform that educates, empowers, and unites individuals in their commitment to protecting our planet for future generations. As Riverhorse continues to make a positive impact in the world of conservation, the podcast remains an invaluable resource, promoting awareness, unity, and appreciation for the beauty of nature and the significance of conservation efforts.

Great Lakes Dude #4 – Skinny Water Fishing with Dave Hurley – Drum Fish, Carp, Spotfin Croaker

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In today’s episode, the Dude Jeff Liskay chats with one of the best shallow-water fly anglers, Dave Hurley. They connected because of their love for the freshwater Drum. They think it’s a cool fish but interestingly enough, some people call it “trash fish”. Now Dave joins our show today to talk about why these fish are great to target.

Dave is a skinny water specialist that runs skinny water safari guide service. Dave roams the backwater of the Great Lakes based on the Lower Peninsula, Michigan where he pulls his way through the miles of skinny water flats, sight-fishing for a wide variety of warm water species out of his towee boat.

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Show Notes with Dave Hurley on Skinny Water Fishing

04:00 – Dave joined a community of fly fishermen who fished in the surf along the Pacific where they fished for Corbina, Surfperch, and Croaker species. Dave got really into fishing for Spotfin Croaker.

06:00 – Dave found out that a stonefly nymph pattern works great for Spotfin Croakers.

09:00 – Dave talks about getting his first boat.

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17:50 – He talks about the time when he and his best friend fished sight fished for musky on the flats.

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18:40 – His go-to is a 6-wt rod and occasional 7-wt.

19:30 – Dave now focuses on carp fishing and goes up to 10-wt. For leader, he goes up to 15-pound test, and sometimes 12 or 10-pound.

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27:25 – Dave doesn’t really pay attention to water temperatures. He and his team are mostly sight fishing.

35:55 – We talk about casting. “Your short game is just as important as your long game”, Dave says.

39:25 – Dave’s favorite line is the SA Bass Bug Fly Line.

42:25 – Dave talks about how he improvises when he ties his flies, tying them differently each time. He also talks about the common materials he uses.

47:40 – Jeff’s go-to flies always have rubber.

49:00 – Dave talks about how being an artist affects his creativity in fishing.

51:00 – Dave talks about how he practices handling fish in a way that doesn’t hurt the fish. And also talks about how he tries in his own little ways to protect the waters he fishes.

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You can find Dave on Instagram @davehurl

Related Podcast Episodes

A Roadmap to Great Lakes Steelhead Fishing (Part 2) – Great Lakes Fly Fishing #3 with Jeff Liskay

 

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Conclusion with Dave Hurley on Skinny Water Fishing

In conclusion, Dave’s fly fishing journey has taught us some valuable lessons. He discovered the importance of community, adaptation, and balance. Dave’s respect for nature and his artistic approach to fishing reminds us to handle fish responsibly and protect our waters. His story shows that fishing is not just a hobby but a way to connect, grow, and find creative expression. So, let’s embrace these lessons and enjoy the beauty of fly fishing while taking care of the environment we love.

Traveled #9 – Lodge at Palisades Creek with Justin Hays – South Fork Snake River, Fly Fishing Lodge, Orvis

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Get ready for an epic adventure at the Lodge At Palisades Creek on the South Fork of the Snake River! Justin’s got an awesome story to tell—from chef to fly fishing guide to running the lodge. We find out how they won the Orvis Fly Fishing Lodge of the Year and how Orvis has supported them along the way.

We explore the river’s stunning five sections, each stretchin’ about 12 miles. We dive into the wild world of Yellowstone cutthroat and those rowdy rainbows, causing a stir in Idaho with bounties on their heads! We’ve got the lowdown on the Salmon fly, Goldenstone, and Caddis fly hatches—nature’s showtime!

Justin also shares valuable tips for all the DIY anglers out there and discusses the importance of river etiquette. Plus, a crazy story involving Dick Cheney’s bodyguards and a sketchy civilian that came so close to a river shootout!

Lodge At Palisades Creek with Justin Hays. Hit play below!

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Show Notes with Justin Hays on Lodge At Palisades Creek

03:00 – Justin tells the story of how he transitioned from being a chef to being a fly fishing guide to managing a lodge.

06:50 – Justin talks about how partnering with Orvis has provided so much support to them in every aspect along the way. And he tells us how they won the Orvis Lodge of the Year Award.

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08:20 – We talk about Yellowstone cutthroat decreasing in numbers and the rainbows increasing, almost being considered invasive. As a result, the Idaho Fishing Game made it legal to catch and kill rainbows, making it a controversial topic in Idaho. IFG even put a bounty on rainbows.

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12:50 – We are coming to the Southfork in Fall for Euro Nymphing School with Pete Erickson.

20:20 – We had an episode about the Henry’s Fork Foundation with Brandon Hoffner at WFS 414.

23:15 – Trivia: Henry’s Fork was originally called the North Fork.

27:40 – They divide the river into 5 sections. Each section is roughly 12 miles long. The 1st section has 5 access points. The 2nd and 3rd sections are the Canyon sections – Justin talks about the amazing campsites in these sections and how amazing it is to fish there. The 4th section begins in the town of Ririe. Read about these sections in detail here.

35:45 – You can visit MillerDriftBoats.com to rent a raft or a drift boat.

36:15 – Stonefly hatch lasts about 2 weeks. Justin talks about the Goldenstone hatch. In the summer they have a hopper season which ends in August. He also noted the Mutant Stonefly hatch – stoneflies that can’t fly. And then they have some Dunns as September progresses.

41:50 – “The trick to the Salmon fly thing is throwing a large dry fly on 2x underneath a bush or a tree and twitching out and try to mimic the real lifecycle of an adult Salmonfly…”, Justin explains in detail.

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46:20 – Perdigons has been a game-changer for them in the last 2 years.

48:20 – Caddis fly hatch starts in mid-October.

48:55 – Pro tip for DIY anglers: “This river empties at 5 pm. You can have that river to yourself at 5 pm and it doesn’t get dark until 10 pm.”

52:30 – Justin is turning 55 this year. He started fishing in the Snake River when he was about 19 years old.

55:45 – We talk about river etiquette.

1:00:50 – Justin talks about how they won Orvis Fly Fishing Lodge of the Year.

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1:06:55 – We noted that video by The New Fly Fisher highlighting the Lodge At Palisades Creek. Scroll down to watch the trailer. 👇🏻

1:07:20 – Their outfitting team mainly uses ClackaCraft Drift Boats. Justin talks about how they customized their boats and their great features.

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1:11:30 – Justin recommends a 9-foot 6-wt rod.

1:13:13 – Justin noted a few restaurants and places around the area that has good food.

1:14:45 – Justin talks about Dick Cheney who’s also a passionate fly angler. He tells a crazy story of when Dick’s bodyguard suspected a civilian of being a threat and almost got shot.

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Dick Cheney fly fishing on the Snake River – 08 JUL 2001

The Lodge At Palisades Creek on Instagram @lodgeatpalisadescreekflyshop

Website at TLAPC.com

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Traveled #8 – Fly Fishing Henry’s Fork with Mike Lawson – Henry’s Fork Anglers, Hatch Chart

Traveled #2: Pete Erickson on the Euro Nymphing School – Team USA Gold, Eastern Idaho, South Fork Snake

 

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Conclusion with Justin Hays on Lodge At Palisades Creek

In this episode, Justin shares his incredible journey from being a chef to becoming a fly fishing guide and managing a lodge. Partnering with Orvis has been instrumental in their success, providing unwavering support every step of the way. We touched on the shifting fish populations in the area, with Yellowstone cutthroat on the decline and rainbows increasing, leading to controversial fishing regulations in Idaho.

We also explored the river’s diverse sections, offering excellent fishing opportunities and stunning campsites. Valuable tips are given, from mastering the Salmon fly technique to utilizing Perdigons effectively. River etiquette is highlighted as a crucial aspect of angling, emphasizing the importance of responsible practices. Lastly, a thrilling tale unfolds involving Dick Cheney’s bodyguards, providing a glimpse into the unexpected adventures that can arise during fishing trips.

WFS 479 – Fly Fishing the St. Joe River with Derek Darst – Cutthroat, Bull Trout, Bass Bugs

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Derek Darst is here to introduce us to the St. Joe River and some of his specialty fly patterns. We explore this lizard fly and some of his other unique flies as we look at his top flies for Idaho. We also learn where to look for Westslope cutthroat trout in his part of the world.

Fly Fishing the St. Joe River with Derek Darst. Hit play below!

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Fly Fishing the St. Joe River Show Notes with Derek Darst

3:21 – Derek tells us how he got into fly fishing. He spent a lot of his time backcountry fly fishing with his father, and at the age of 10, he started learning how to tie flies. He now offers flies online through Saint Maries Flies.

5:33 – We dig into the St. Joe River and Saint Maries River which he says has a good Westslope cutthroat population.

9:10 – We find out where to look for Westslope cutthroat trout.

15:05 – He recommends some must-have fly patterns to catch some Westslope cutthroat trout, such as stimulator, elk hair, caddises, and royal wolf. One of his favorites is the Turks tarantula with a red body or burnt orange colored body.

18:28 – He takes us through the year through the St. Joe River.

21:12 – We talk about Coeur d’Alene, Idaho. A lot of people visit this area for the lakes.

22:25 – He gives us the key to finding some bull trout. I mention our episode with Dave Blackburn where he talked a bit about the regulations on targeting bull trout.

29:21 – He sells Pat Cohen patterns on his website. Pat was one of his big influences in fly tying. He quit selling flies and dedicated his time to tattoo artistry through his Instagram @rusuperfly. We had him in the podcast on episode 107.

Photo via: https://www.instagram.com/rusuperfly/

30:20 – We dig into his fly tying. At first, he was self-taught, but then he bought some of Pat Cohen’s videos to learn about deer hair.

31:52 – The most common flies he ties are the poppers, divers, and frogs.

34:14 – He gets his deer hair from North American Trading in Strum, Wisconsin. He looks for the thickest and longest hair.

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Photo via: https://saintmariesflies.com/product/natures-spirit-spinning-deer-hair-2×3/

38:48 – He also sells lizards for muskies and bass which are around nine to 10 inches long. He ties these for an hour at least.

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43:28 – We talk about Westslope cutthroats. There are also a few rainbows in St. Joe River.

46:27 – He recommends the Huckleberry Campground. People mostly camp during summer in around July and August.

47:08 – We do some random rapid-fire questions.

49:09 – He shares about that time when Luke Bryan visited their town to fish. He performed live in Spokane and at the 2:15 minute mark of the video, he signed a board with Derek’s flies on it and took the fly with him.

50:53 – He went to Florida, at Tampa Bay, a couple of months ago for a fishing trip.

53:06 – He did a video for Musky Town on tying deer hair diver and popper.

54:57 – He uses a lot of Kona Xtra Stong Stinger (XSS) hooks for his hair bugs.

Photo via: https://konafishingproducts.com/products/xtra-strong-stinger

You can find Derek Darst on Instagram @SaintMariesFlies

Facebook at Saint Maries Flies

Visit his website at SaintMariesFlies.com.

Videos Noted in the Show

Related Podcast Episodes

WFS 446 – Maine Fly Guys with Greg LaBonte – Musky, Brook Trout, In the Film Podcast

 

WFS 416 – Kootenai River Fly Fishing with Dave Blackburn – Montana, Bull Trout, Bluegrass

 

WFS 107 – Fly Tying with Pat Cohen – Deer Hair Poppers, RU Superfly, Smallmouth Bass, Tattoo Art

 

WFS 444 – Selecting Hooks for Fly Tying with Steve Potter – Daiichi, Deer Hair, Cigar Fly

 

WFS 468 – Driftless Fly Fishing with Geri Meyer – Driftless Angler, Caddis Flies, Crane Flies

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Fly Fishing the St. Joe River Conclusion with Derek Darst

Overall, our episode with Derek Darst was a fascinating dive into the world of fly tying and fishing in Idaho. We got a firsthand look at his specialty fly patterns, including the impressive lizard fly, and gained valuable insights into where to find the elusive Westslope cutthroat trout.

If you’re a fly fishing enthusiast or just interested in the craft of fly tying, be sure to check out Derek’s work and explore the beautiful St. Joe River for yourself.

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WFS 478 – Fly Fishers International with Patrick Berry – Conservation, Fly Casting Instructions, Fly Tying

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Fly Fishers International

Patrick Berry takes us into Fly Fishers International and the resources you can utilize for fishing and conservation. We discover where locally you can get involved in sustaining your fishing and your fishery.

We also find out which top national issues they are working on this year and the history of how it all started for Patrick and FFI. This is not just your ordinary fishing chat — it’s an inspiring journey of passion, dedication, and making a difference.

Fly Fishers International with Patrick Berry. Hit play below!

 

 

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Fly Fishers International Show Notes with Patrick 

03:00 – When it comes to conservation, names like Fly Fishers International and Trout Unlimited always come up. We’ve previously had Len Zickler on the show, and today we’re diving into an exciting update on FFI with Patrick Berry. But first, we hear about how Patrick got into fly fishing.

04:00 – Patrick’s earliest memories in life were of fish and fishing. Despite not having much growing up, he vividly recalls a camping trip with his family, where his father ingeniously crafted fishing rods out of sticks, strings, and safety pins as hooks while digging worms for bait.

08:20 – Patrick shares his journey into conservation work, which he describes as a common path for many fly fishers. He quotes the words of Lee Wulff, one of the founders of FFI, who famously said, “When you teach a person to fly fish, you have just created a conservationist.”

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10:14 – After years of trout bumming after college, Patrick got a job in a fly shop with Jeff Currier. He says reading Aldo Leopold’s A Sand County Almanac inspired Patrick to pursue environmental science, focusing on freshwater ecology and fisheries. This marked the beginning of his remarkable conservation-focused career.

Photo via https://www.amazon.com/County-Almanac-Outdoor-Essays-Reflections/dp/0345345053

12:35 – After years in Montana, Patrick and his wife decided to return to Vermont, where he worked for the Vermont Natural Resources Council. He was later appointed head of Vermont’s Fish and Wildlife Department.

Fly Fishers International — Who Are They?

14:38 – Patrick Berry sees Fly Fishers International as an organization that is available to guide people on their fly fishing journey no matter what their skill level is, where they live, or what fish is their favorite to chase after.

Fly Fishers International started with a focus on conservation, education, and community in the 1960s, and they’ve stayed true to their roots to this day.

15:00 – Fly Fishers International’s most significant strength area is high-quality fly fishing education. The Casting Instructor Certification at FFI is considered a premier casting instructor program worldwide.

18:00 – Patrick shares his perspective on pressing issues today, such as climate change and more. According to Patrick, climate change movements sometimes fall short of providing information on how an average person can help make a difference.

35:40 – Patrick lets us in on FFI’s conservation focus for the upcoming years. Their main goal is to keep providing conservation grants at the local level and collaborate closely with partners to tackle big-picture conservation challenges head-on.

41:17 – We also touch on the significance of technology and the role of famous personalities in driving change.

46:17 – Since our upcoming event is centered around the Great Lakes, I couldn’t miss the opportunity to ask Patrick for his insights on the steelhead program in the region.

1:05:27 – Patrick is a music and podcast enthusiast, and he admits to having a dedicated playlist exclusively for The Avett Brothers’ songs. Additionally, Patrick is a big fan of the SmartLess Podcast, especially the episode featuring George Clooney.

 

Visit their website at Fly Fishers International

Instagram @flyfishersinternational

Facebook Fly Fishers International

Resources Noted in the Show

 Videos Noted in the Show

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WFS 408 – Fly Fishing Florida with Bruce Chard – Tarpon, Bonefish, Permit, Grand Slam

WFS 474 – Lords of the Fly with Monte Burke – Homosassa, Tarpon Fishing, Nick Saban

 

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Fly Fishers International Conclusion with Patrick Berry

And that’s a wrap of our conversation with Patrick Berry from Fly Fishers International. We got an inside look into his journey, his passion for conservation, and the important work FFI is doing.

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